Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006 Ohio's 13th congressional district election
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The result was merge to 2006 United States House of Representatives elections in Ohio. Daniel (talk) 08:20, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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The article fails WP:GNG and WP:SPLIT. Anything notable about the race can be put into 2006 United States House of Representatives elections in Ohio. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 06:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - Passes the GNG.[1][2][3][4] Merging everything into Ohio election page makes that article unwieldy. Morbidthoughts (talk) 07:47, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Morbidthoughts: Actually, merging it into the general Ohio article would be pretty easy. A paragraph is just enough, not an entire separate article. So again, it fails WP:SPLIT. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 22:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- You're making a WP:ITSCRUFT argument after the GNG being met was pointed out. SPLIT, which is neither guideline nor policy, does not apply when this election itself meets the GNG and has that much content. Morbidthoughts (talk) 23:03, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Morbidthoughts: Actually, merging it into the general Ohio article would be pretty easy. A paragraph is just enough, not an entire separate article. So again, it fails WP:SPLIT. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 22:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge Just because it passes GNG does not mandate a separate article. Expanded prose is more than welcome in the main state article. Reywas92Talk 18:57, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge per Reywas92. Also, WP:ROUTINE. These elections are held every two years, as required by law. And as ROUTINE says, "Run-of-the-mill events—common, everyday, ordinary items that do not stand out—are probably not notable." Of course, these elections do not happen every day, but the fact that they are held every two years without fail also points to a common, ordinary occurrence. It's why we automatically have articles on special elections, because they do NOT fall into a ROUTINE sort of standard when it comes to the regular election cycle. Love of Corey (talk) 04:03, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Elections are not listed under ROUTINE nor Run-of-the-mill and are not analogous to the examples given in those articles. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:30, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Like I said before, "Of course, these elections do not happen every day, but the fact that they are held every two years without fail also points to a common, ordinary occurrence." Love of Corey (talk) 01:36, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Let me quote, Nsk92 then: "It is completely obvious that the provision refers to routine everyday types of events, not elections to U.S. Congress" Morbidthoughts (talk) 02:10, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Like I said before, "Of course, these elections do not happen every day, but the fact that they are held every two years without fail also points to a common, ordinary occurrence." Love of Corey (talk) 01:36, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Elections are not listed under ROUTINE nor Run-of-the-mill and are not analogous to the examples given in those articles. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:30, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Comment - I'll have to point out for transparency's sake that this article had been bundled into an earlier AfD, which was closed as keep. Love of Corey (talk) 04:03, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Merge I don't believe single seat races held as part of a general election are article-worthy. Number 57 17:43, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
- Question What article is it being proposed that this one be merged to? I probably support that proposal, but I want to figure out where we are trying to merge it. I can see three possible candidates, a general article on the 2006 election in Ohio, an article on the person who won the election, or an article on the Ohio's 13th congressional district. I would support any of the three outcomes. Also, unless we have 1882 Ohio's 13th congressional district election or even 1992 Ohio's 13th congressional district election, this reeks of presentatism and suggests we only have it because people really do create news type articles in Wikipedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:27, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ohio's 13th congressional district was formed in 1823. So if this is a legitimate part of a grander scheme we should have 1824 Ohio's 13th congressional district election, 1826 Ohio's 13th congressional district election and so on through 2020 Ohio's 13th congressional district election. The fact that the actual text of this article only covers the boundaries of the district back to 2003 shows a true lack of vision. The Almanac of American Politics was published biannually at least starting in the early 1970s, and may still be published. I have spent huge amounts of time perusing it, but before I became a regularl Wikipedia editor. An editor using it to develop better articles would need to avoid violating copyright laws, and may have to seek out additional sources, but that would be a way to finally get these articles to break free of presentism with more than just charts.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:33, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell this is the only non-special election article related to a specific election in Ohio's 13th congressional district. It appears that for Ohio we only have the special election articles for 2013.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:36, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - I think we should keep it seeing as it was bundled into Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006 Arizona's 1st congressional district election and all those articles were kept. --CanadianToast (talk) 20:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- The articles were nominated again, individually this time, and two (2006 Colorado's 5th congressional district election and 2006 West Virginia's 2nd congressional district election) were closed as merge (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006 Colorado's 5th congressional district election and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006 West Virginia's 2nd congressional district election). So I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch just yet. Love of Corey (talk) 12:45, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- This also ignores that if we keep this article, 2006 will be the only year in which we have election articles for the district, for no explained reason at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:45, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, that too. Love of Corey (talk) 08:06, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- This also ignores that if we keep this article, 2006 will be the only year in which we have election articles for the district, for no explained reason at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:45, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- The articles were nominated again, individually this time, and two (2006 Colorado's 5th congressional district election and 2006 West Virginia's 2nd congressional district election) were closed as merge (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006 Colorado's 5th congressional district election and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006 West Virginia's 2nd congressional district election). So I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch just yet. Love of Corey (talk) 12:45, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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